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    • CommentAuthorbk
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2007
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    I REALLY try to avoid rules discussions. I find them rather boring, usually. But we just started Chicago Spring League, and SL is suddenly using the 11th edition rules. Since there are some 10th edition changes that are still not being played correctly, I thought I'd bring up an 11th edition rule that might cause problems.

    On Saturday while I was watching a painfully long game, I saw someone get fouled while catching a disc in the endzone. If I recally correctly, he actually made the catch in the air and was pushed out. He said foul. Defender said no contest. Someone said "11th edition. foul in the endzone. score." I thought, I don't think that's entirely correct. So I pulled out my handy copy of the 11th edition.

    I'm not providing links or quoting the rules just yet, but I scanned over the rules to see if I was correct in doubting this. It looks to me that there are different subsets of fouls that are treated differently. If someone catches the disc in the endzone, and then gets fouled and loses the disc, this is a score. It's explicitly stated. Goes along with the new rule where if you catch a score and don't realize it and throw it away, it can still be counted as a score. It also overlaps the old strip rule. 'Strip' isn't a call anymore, but if you get stripped in the endzone, it's a foul and a goal as long as it's uncontested.

    However, and this was something that a few others disagreed with me on, I am pretty sure the 11 edition rules don't say that if you are fouled in the endzone, and never catch the disc, that it is an automatic goal. I think the intended receiver gets the disc at the front of the endzone just like under the 10th.

    However, I didn't read the entire set of rules. That's just from a quick read. I was much more interested in enjoying the weather and the heckling. I can easily post this question to the UPA rules blog, but i thought I'd get some discussion going here first.
    • CommentAuthorultimate7
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
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    My understanding of the rules matches yours Brian. It's only a goal on an uncontested foul after possession has occured. If before possession then it is played how we have always played it (receiver's disc at the goal line if uncontested)
    • CommentAuthorayamaguc
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
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    My best understanding is that this is correct.

    I believe there was disagreement in our circle as to uncontested fouls (strips) in the endzone, which are now definitvely a goal.
    • CommentAuthorpbgipper
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2007
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    I like to think of them not as rules, but guidelines that serve as a starting point for negotiations.
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